9701237 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

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daniel987878 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

No problem man. Maybe I misunderstood something myself. Ive forgotten what the topic was already anyway.

Ryukikon (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

this type of capitalism is the wrong kind and is destructive to democratic instituions. It is criminal to freedom. I respect your view and I probably hold a similar one because your talk sounds alot like the economics of a constituitonalist. I can respect that and if I am wrong I can still respect it. That is the way conversations should be even when we disagree we should do it with respect and understanding, I like the way you respond. So accept my apology for any misunderstanding.

Ryukikon (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I don't really have a problem with what you said, I understand the gist, however if I came off wrong forgive me. I was just pointing out the flaw in your statement however when I did write those it was incredibly late. I wish for you to take no offense to my statements as they are not directed with any malice or prodding intent. I agree with you on your talks about corporate socialism and the class warfare engaged in america and the divide in america.

Ryukikon (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

acutally that wasnt directed towards you if my memory serves. It was towards some guy who made this terribel arguement for Russian politics. If memory serves. mind sets like that respectfully exist but they are the reason why democratic reforms are hard win and regressive. It was respectfully his opinion but it was just morally wrong in its timing and manner. So no offense to you and I am sorry if you felt it directed at you but that guy's statement was something that had to be addressed.

daniel987878 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I know that. My point was that capitalism isnt bad in itself. It can be bad as is seen now when corporations and central banks control and distort all the markets. I agree with you that capitalism and socialism are just as valid. But the problem with socialism in my opinion is that too much power is concentrated in the state. In capitalist competitive free markets the individual and has more freedom and rights. I am against the current capitalist arrangement though.

daniel987878 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I dont advocate any form of authoritarian government. I advocate constitutional, limited government of the people in order to protect freedoms. I dnt understand your comment.

supermiguel68 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

El ritmo ciclico de la vida y los hechos se repite...Chavez/Castro Kennedy/? Kurushchev/Putin...esta vez adonde nos llevara el siniestro brazo de la historia? sera un escenario nuevo para una nueva Guerra fria? o peor...otra guerra mundial?? dios nos libre de Chavez,Putin;(Obama?)....

Ryukikon (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

It fell from incompentant leaders, from a republic to dictatorship. That is what's happening here. Like with Ceasar, The republic is being killed only not by popular demand like in Rome but by quiet complancey.

Ryukikon (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Your talk sounds alot like the ignorant peasant. Everyone is governed, true. Policy governs and influences our lives but it is how you are govern that counts. Do you want someone who has the policy to simply force you to do something or someone who has to coerceyou but you can still reject it. One has greater room for democratic reformes for the viligant that the other. So you can be the ignorant peasant who loves his masters rule and doesn't want to seek a system that leads to freedoms easiest