t1201971 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Right, like there's an EBM panel of experts somewhere in Belgium that meets yearly and hands down pronouncements like that from on high. I don't like counterposing groups like that either- all of them have made important contributions to the genre and any debate about relative importance is gonna be highly subjective to say the least.

steelgiant (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I'm a fan of both as well and I agree you can't compare the two It was this comment which I should of replied directly to that ticked me off to make my comment."Even though Skinny Puppy and Front 242 are my two favorite electronic groups neither is widely considered the best. But Kraftwerk is not considered the best either. Most experts will tell you that Throbbing Gristles is the best."I love the "Most Expert" part.

t1201971 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Yeah, I agree that Kraftwerk were waaaay more influential on the music scene. Their work opened up the creative space that led to the creation of several music genres. House music partially owes its existence to the gentlemen from der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Throbbing Gristle were performance artists first, "musicians" second. I don't know if you can really compare the two, altho I'm a fan of both.

steelgiant (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

On the fly as improvised recordings done in one session. What is the rest of this gibberish you are speaking. Take one too many hits of LSD?

atomictraveller (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

it sounds on the fly.. like consciousness?? "it sounds" is hardly a logical proof of your deduction. books and covers.one day scientists will respect the psychic instead of destroying.there is no comparison in entirety. your comparitive envaluation is based on things you don't perceive or understand apparently.have respect if you don't know about something. people don't just like things you don't like because they are inferior to you.

steelgiant (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

"Most experts will tell you that Throbbing Gristles is the best. " Well I'm expert and that is the absolute stupidest thing I ever heard.Kraftwerk is world famous in many scenes of music. TG is not. Kraftwerk's sound design and production skills were light years ahead of TG. TG was raw and dirty. Their music sounds sounds if most it was done on the fly. Kraftwerk's music was well thought out. Their is no comparison between the two.

therealhypnoskull (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

why doesn't my reply to a previous comment goes where it belongs heh ? Front was and is the fucking reference.

therealhypnoskull (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

that makes there will never be any better ? Kraftwerk are the pioneers. true. very even. but nowadays... I heard allready better :)

giuseppeuzzardi (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

wow, right on. totally interesting!

blacklightfreakout (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Yeah, I knew it was Iching. I think they used it also because in a weird way Iching looks like some sort of digital code due to it being consisted of straight and broken lines.